It is absolutely amazing that we live in a day when the only "first hand" observations that we have that the earth is spherical is that we have seen pictures from nasa, or that we think we have seen a curve from an airplane. August Piccard went many miles up into the stratosphere in his balloon capsule, and he said of what the earth looked like, "a disc with upturned edges". None of us has been up 14 miles above the earth like him, except military pilots/"astronauts" who are sworn to obey orders of any kind. Piccard was an independent scientist working prior to the military takeover of "space" by nasa. Were we ever taught anything in school about Piccard? No. We were pointed to a globe from kindergarten, or before, and told to accept it as fact with no confirmation by reproducible testing, measuring, or even observation. In school, if you were good at memorizing what they told you, you got the good grades, and they told you what they were told without any verification process either.I have run into several persons that think I am deceived in my "blind" faith in my Creator. I believe the Bible accounts to be His very word, and I purpose to learn how to live by them. But here they are, considering themselves to be very enlightened because they believe nasa. They have no first hand knowledge, and completely depend on nasa to tell them what reality is. This is every bit as faith based as believing the scriptures! It's just different "gods" - gravity, the sun, the moon, the stars, self, "science". Please don't tell me that I must be anti science. Real science does real things that help real people in this real earth! And we all see, and experience the many advances that real science has brought us. It does not, however, invent theoretical models, and then present them as fact to gain political, military, and monetary power over the masses.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaqY9abENec