[i believe most of the skimmerless systems are utilizing the Ecosystem method with Miracle Mud. I have heard some really good things and likewise some not so good. Here are some posts if interested.] said:[I run skimmer-less and don't use miraclemud either. This is just my personal experience, but I think at some point tank size outweighs the need for it. I planned on adding an ETSS or Euroreef skimmer, but I just never got a measurable amount of nitrates, so (so far) I never did.
I have about 5" to 8" of fine aragonite in the bottom of my tank. It's about 340gal (96x30x25). I use a sump (for circulation really, no medium in it except a sponge I use as a pump pre-filter). And the tank has been up for over a year now with no detectable nitrates on the salifert low-range scale. I feed at least one cube frozen food once a day + some mixed or chopped foods for SPS sometimes. And my personal opinion, judging from this tank, is that my SPS grow better with more suspended nutrients in the water column. I honestly think between DSB and prolific tunicates and fanworms, I get enough filtration.
Of course, I'd never think of doing this if the tank size was under 200gal. or so. I use to have a couple of 40gal. tanks, and I couldn't do enough skimming on those.
Now, everybody can stare at me like I just grew a horn for even suggesting this is possible. ]
Kevin Who [I]are[/I] you?! :D :D :D :D said:I just posted under the introduction thing. Let's see, how can I put this. I'm the guy who joined about a year ago and doesn't really know anyone. But I always accompany my wife who talks to everyone I think. We're both blond haired, blue-eyed kinda people, and I wasn't at the christmas party, so the last meeting I attended was at the member's home in Southlake a couple months ago. My tank is pretty young in terms of SPS. It's been up for about a year, and I've had just about everything else in it, but I just added the first SPS in about June. I am mainly a frag person, so I've only bought one colony that I got from MACNA, so only one or two things of mine are even near fraggable yet. See you at the next meeting.]
[Oh! Duh.
You know more people than I do. I know a lot of faces, and I've talked to a lot of people, but I can never put a name to a face until I've talked to people several times. I know the officers basically. Brad, Barry, Stan, etc. But I doubt that they really know me, cause we just float around and gab with everybody at the meetings.]
Now Marc said:I'll need to meet you. I know you go by Alf, but you signed some messages with Robert, so I'll keep my ears open for that name to be dropped.
At the meeting at Planet Pet a few weeks ago, I was the one that talked about the Tunze Turbelle powerhead I'm using, if that helps. You can seek me out so I can meet the man of beautiful tanks!
Marc]