Pappone Method

[bimmerzs]

Wondering what happened to all of the diehard pappone users.......are they now vodka
dosing their tank's.

Cheers,

 

[washingtond]

@bimmerzs wrote:

What do you use???

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[bimmerzs]

@washingtond wrote:

What do you use???

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Fish poop, a lil' reef frenzy, a lil' cyclopeeze and another coral food. Varied food's for the fish.

Cheers,

 

[Bayou]

I quit using pappone and started using rotifers.
I think Robert still uses a hybrid recipe with some suppliments. He is still the resident King of sps IMHO

 

[GraviT]

I developed a nasty case of dinos after my 2nd dose of pappone that the system never recovered from and ultimately crashed. No more of that stuff for me.

 

[Guest]

Vodka dosing doesn't really feed the corals like pappone does. I never made a batch a pappone since and I started using oyster feast, rotifeast and arcticpods. I guess when they run out I will try rods food next.

 

[Servo]

The reported sucess of pappone was likely in very low nutrient tanks. Given that the most sucessful antecdotal tanks were Italian, they were likely using a probidio or zeo filtration system. The increase in autotrophic bacteria was the likely way that theses systems could handle the biologic loads.

I have been making my own food for the last 4 years which in essence is a poppone like method, but there is still no substitute for excellent water quality, approprate chemistry, light and flow. I don't believe in lemming reefing. Stick to the basics with SPS and your system will do very well, the problems begin when you lose your attention to the details and/or stop doing water changes.

 

[bimmerzs]

@Servo wrote:

Amen brother,

I'm no expert but it seems like a lot of folks jump into these method's for the wrong reasons while conveniently overlooking the pesky detail's.

Cheers,

 

[Servo]

The wrong reasons are always fast results. I can't say that I blame people, if there was a way to take a 1 inch stick and grow it into a small 4 inch colony in a year, I would do it to. The reality is-other than in the ocean, there is no perfect system and we struggle to give these organisms a suboptimal environment.

 

[bimmerzs]

@Servo wrote:

What I see is folks jumping on this to lower nitrate/phosphate issues which were caused by overfeeding and overstocking. They get the nitrates/phosphates down and first thing they do is add another fish, feeding even more thus perpetuating the cycle. It takes a lot of discipline to vodka dose, I don't see why some can't use that same discipline to avoid some of the root causes to their problem.

Cheers,