Solaris! (not the OS, movie or what you may think)

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GraviT

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Has anybody seen this yet? I wonder what the price tag is going to be...I'm excited by the idea. :D

EDIT: I found the price tag here. Doesn't look like I'll be straying away from MH anytime soon. :?
 
I'd been hearing about them for awhile and wondered what price they would introduce at.,... but it will be awhile before that even begins to cost justify their pricing...
Maybe a group buy and we could shave $10 off the price...hehehe. :shock: 8)
Oh well...back to work....

Doug
 
Would you mind buying one of these and let me know how it does? :lol: Supposedly, it says that they can be adjusted, via the built in interface, from 6.5K to 22K. So, why do they sell a 20K and 13K version?
-Chuck
 
I saw them at IMAC and I am sure they will be at MACNA. Nice light, but one question I had was what happens when the led goes out and they said it be the end of the light. So I figure at 50,000 hours of use which they claim the light would last about 12.5 years. Dividing the cost of the light I would need over 12 years it would cost about $280 per year for the light. I know it is major chunk of change but they are almost worth the price. I bet in another year or so the costs will come down significantly
 
Supposedly said:
I wondered the same thing too, but maybe the bulb 'type' sets the upper K limit of the adjustment.... I know, I know.... if so... why not just buy the largest upper K value and adjust it lower.... :evil: In other words.... not a clue why there's an adjustment *and* a bulb K rating. Might be interesting to find out when "we" order one... :)

Doug
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Dang... Those are ALMOST as pricey as the hardware you need to run Solaris (The OS)!

Very promising technology, but I think I'll sit this one out for a few more years, let the early adopters on the bleeding edge figure out the bugs and let the price come down... And they will, and it will, it's just a matter of time...
 
With the energy savings, no need for a chiller & 11 years of bulb life WOW
Ken

The 75-watt Solaris produced 89.4% of the PAR generated by the 250-watt XM 20,000K lamp.

Joy Meadows mentioned in a recent conversation that she had discontinued use of a chiller after replacing her metal halide lamps with a Solaris lighting system.
Ms. Meadows is no stranger to reef aquaria, as those who know her can attest. For photos of her former coral greenhouse, see: http://cimaonline.us/Images/past_meetings/harbor_aquatics/2002.


An important selling point of LEDs is invariably that of lamp longevity. Philips maintains their white and blue Emitters have an expected life of 50,000 hours. The lamps are reportedly at 70% of original output at that point. If the daily photoperiod is 12 hours, then a 30% reduction in intensity could be expected in about 11 years. Figure 3 reports projected lamp intensity after 11.4 years of use.



http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/8/review2
 
Another wow factor of these systems is that you can program a true sun rise, sun set and cloud motion settings. I believe the PAR rating was 180 which is greater than a 250W radium.

Mike Wamsley at Extreme corals has a friend on the east coast who has been running one on his reef for the past 1 1/2. He says that the colors are absolutely insane. (Like Jason Jones' tank)

The 20K has an inverse PAR rating to the 13. You get better coloration and more intensity! Win Win :!:
 
My biggest concerns would be 1) they alwasy run comparison to 15 or 20k XM's, not 10k XM's w/VHO or even some icecap t5's (I wonder why?), 2) The fact LED's don't really last 10 years.

On the bright side the electircal savings might be nice when we're paying .25 a kw, the heat issue is a so-so thing, I always thought it was a mildly overblown topic when discussing any of the diffrent lighting solutions.


PW
 
@PrangeWay wrote:
My biggest concerns would be 1) they always run comparison to 15 or 20k XM's said:
Are you sure about LED's not lasting 10 years? From what I have read, LED's can last upwards of 100,000 hours, but that most lose effectiveness after 50,000 hours. The biggest factor on life being how they are powered and what voltage is being used. Also, The LED's used in traffic stoplights are expected to last at least 10 years. And they are on quite a bit

Also, if they do only last 10 years, is the price worth the amount of 10 years worth of replacement bulbs? I think the ability to mimic cloud passings and dawn and dusk affects make it worth it. I think that is very cool. Now, off to play the lotto. :lol:
-Chuck
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You also need to consider the PUR (Photosynthetic unusable Radiation) and the fact that the LED's don't emit light from a point source like a halide. THe physics are completely different, however, PAR is PAR.

Lets face it, if this cost $800 dollars, this would be on all of our christmas lists.
 
Yea..im going to have to change my major to somthing that makes alot more money.....This is definetly goin on the x-mas list.
 
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