how many fish question

Guy's and Gal's,
Does anyone have an idea of the ration between how many fish or inches of fish to gallons of tank water useing live rock and a protein skimmer, you can do without causing problem. ( just a guide line)...George
 
I don't know of any "rule of thumb" that I'd agree with... The X inches of fish per X gallons has one big problem...

6 1 inch Chromis vs. 1 6 inch Naso... That 1 6 inch Naso is gonna have a much larger biological impact than the 6 smaller fish will (Not even getting into what size all the above can eventually grow into)

Unfortunately, the best I could tell ya' is "I know an overstocked tank when I see it"... I know that's nebulous and vague, but how big of a tank, how many and what kind of fish are in it now and what are you considering adding?
 
I was thinking about adding 3 yellow tangs and clown tang and mandarin to my 24g nano. :D j/k

Brian is right. inches per gallon for determining bioload is about as accurate as watts per gallon for lighting needs. But, depending on the type of fish and gallons in the tank, I am sure that people on the board here will be able to help you determine if that is too much.
-Chuck
 
So 280" of fish for my tank is wrong? :wink:
 
[[so 10 yellowtails chromis/damsel one gs maroon 250 snails and what else can I add?]]

I don't want any[ tangs] right now, but I am open to suggestions. Working on growing a big copepod pop for a mandrin for my christmas present to myself or if things keep coming up for my 25th :cry: birthday. (My 24th bday is monday) I want no time where I don't see fish. The only draw back right now that I can see is my tank is only 2.5ish months old. I will be adding thing a few at a time. that way i can watch the fish in the store for a while before buying it.
thanks for any suggestion y'all might have Breezy
 
It would be better to add one fish every two weeks or so, maybe even once a month, starting with the least aggressive, smaller ones first. The last fish to go in should be your more territorial types. I have all peaceful fish and over the course of a year I have populated my tank to the limit. So far all is well, except for a bout with ich that I won.

It might be better to try the easy corals before adding any fish, or you could get a good algae grazer for the first fish. If I had it to do over, I would have gone slower at first. I just got my first mandarin after a year and a half, and she's got plenty to eat in my 120 gal.

Kay
 
@Serk wrote:
I don't know of any "rule of thumb" that I'd agree with... The X inches of fish per X gallons has one big problem... 6 1 inch Chromis vs. 1 6 inch Naso said:
you might be surprised how many years the "experts" included in their books those retarded inches of fish per gallon formulas.

a fish that is 2 inches in length has 8 times the mass of a 1 inch fish when sized to scale. when lngth double, mass goes up 8 times if body shape stays in scale. I've been telling that to people going back to the 80's. it wasn't hard to figure out on my own with a pencil and paper. [subliminal message: Carl - "it ain't got no gas."] just by playing with modeling clay, one should at least get a ballpark idea. [Carl - "Have you checked them plugs? It's prolly them plugs. umm hmmm..."] i've never believed much of what i read in fish books and mags. some things you have to figure out on your own by thinking for yourself, because there will always be misinformation repeated by parrots in book after book after book. monkey read, monkey write, monkey doesn't question.

The "experts" said what I was doing in the early 90's couldn't be done, and now those same experts are the "gurus" of sand beds and "no filtration", though they still use skimmers. "refugium"? my filterless tanks, including a 360 gallon beautiful show tank packed with many fish at PP, were their own refugiums. some day most reef keepers won't be using protein skimmers, and i'm sure as it becomes trend, sprung will explain with fancy formula and, as time passes, people will systematically believe he was one of the gurus of that too, with reef notes volume rocky vii. [biscuits and mustard...]
 
I was told on saltwaterfish.com that my current tank, in the poster's oppinion, was overstocked... 46G bowfront...
Fish
2 Black Percs
4 Green Chromis
1 Yellow Watchman
Inverts
1 Skunk Shrimp
2 Peppermint Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
Various snails and hermits
Corals
1 - Fox, Bubble, Frogspawn, Sun polyp
1 - RBTA
several mushrooms... red and a few green ricordia...

other than the Chromis wanting to hover with the percs all the time, it doesn't appear "crowded."

Any input will be gladly accepted and paid for with a quick thanks!
 
Doesn't sound like too much to me, although when the chromis grow to their full capacity, you might have to make some adjustments. Also depends on do you have a sump? Do you have a skimmer, fuge? All those variables make a difference.

I have the problem that I have the right amount of fish now, but when they grow, I'm going to have to say goodbye to somebody.

Kay
 
"Had" a wet/dry... Removed the bioballs and replaced with LR rubble. Have been running a skimmer since day 1 (litterally day 1.)

46# of LR (and 4.75# of LR rubble)
around 50# of LS.
Great water flow (SEIO 620 powerhead and a 500gph sump return pump)

I had asked, on the other site, about hippo tangs... EA had just recently gotten in some little guys and I was hoping...

My last fish going into the tank will be a flame angle... My next... looking at a six-line wrasse...

thanks again!
 
Whoa. If you add all those to your 46, you may be overstocked. Blue tangs get real big, and I'm thinking about selling mine and getting a littler one. But they all grow. Sounds like you have a nice set up, though. One way I can tell that I'm getting overstocked possibly is nitrates a little higher than a year ago, and too much nuisance algae.

Kay
 
The hippos are not being added due to reported size needed...
We also plan to start "kids" tanks and move the chromis out to those once established... Right now, the wrasse is next (but more than likely months away), then the flame... We're focusing more on corals and anemones right now... Thanks...
 
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