Help w/ acro raffle prize - Got mine home.....

masharp1126

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[Got mine home and acclimated and noticed there are small pieces of brown, dead looking stuff coming off of it. Brad told me it was a table acro. Currently have it in moderate/high flow area about 8 to 10 inches from the top. After the lights came on this morning, I've noticed that there are still pieces shedding off. Looks kind of like when you get sunburned and your dead skin starts peeling off.

Is this normal? This is the biggest colony I've got. Have only got small frags of SPS in the tank so far and have not seen this with the other frags. Maybe since they are so much smaller that this one, they actually did the same, and I missed it.

Help! If you need more info, please let me know or if a picture would help, I've never posted one but will attempt to later this afternoon.

Thanks.]
 
[How much of the coral tissue has already receded? If it was mine and 15-20% of the tissue receded I would go ahead and frag it. If not watch it very close and if it continues frag it. Be sure to frag above the receded tissue. I usually wait a couple of days before I mount the frags because the likelyhood of losing some of the frags is likely. Good luck.]
 
[One other thing. If you have high output lights you might want to move it down out of the intense light and put it in a place of moderate flow. BtW whats your definition of Moderate/High flow? Hope it not sitting in front of a powerhead. It probably isn't bleaching due to your lights since you said that the tissue receded over night.]
 
[That is not a good sign. It should not be flaking off any tissue at all.

You probably should frag off any good pieces immediately, at least 1/2" away from the area that is sloughing off tissue.

Man, that was the very piece I wanted too! I'm sorry to see it isn't doing well.]
 
[Here's a picture just taken.

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It appears not to be losing any more tissue, but I'm not sure at this point what % is lost. I've moved it down about midway in tank in lower flow and lighting, for now.

When bagged, it only had enough water to cover about half of it, and I had about an hour drive home. Wondering if this might have contributed?

After looking at the picture, it anyone has any further ideas, please let me know. Not sure, at this point, if I should start to frag it, or give it another day or two? If I do frag, anyone with lots of experience with SPS want to help, in exchange for a frag? I've only fragged an SPS once at Chris Curtis's house and that was simply breaking off a piece.]



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[Can anyone else see the picture? When I reopen the thread, it's there. Hope I did it right.

TealCobra, I'm about 3 or 4 miles north of McKinney on Hwy 75. I was hoping that be posting the pic, someone would be able to tell me if I should procede with fragging at this point, or that it looked okay and hold off a day or two. Don't want to wait too long though and lose the whole thing. If you'd like to swing by and take a look, let me know and I'll send you directions.

Thanks]
 
[Mark, I looked at your post, to see why the picture wouldn't load - it's under msn users, so you have to have a logon and password to see the pic - in other words, it's in a protected site, and you can't copy it over.

You need to store your pics on a site that allows links :)

(I didn't change anything on the original post, just looked.)]
 
[These corals can be out in full sunlight for a few hours each day and do great. Granted, this coral was bagged & shipped to L.A., rebagged and shipped again to DFW, then placed in a temporary tank for 24 hours before being bagged again, before it reached your tank. It has every reason to be stressed.

I can't see the picture, but I do hope it will settle down soon and heal up nicely. Please post your set up, as requested above, and give us some updates as to how this coral's health progresses.]
 
[Okay, couldn't get pic to post, I can email if you'd like to see it. I'll post when my gallery is up and running.

Tank parameters are as follows:

PH - 8.0
Calcium - 440
KH - 9.9
Phos - .03

105 g, (2) 175w MH 6500K & (2) 40w actinic flor, water movement is mag 9.5 on closed loop, mag 7 for return from sump, and one hagen 402 powerhead. Closed loop comes up at the front corners of tank pointed back towards live rock. Return is back right corner and powerhead back left corner, both at top. Tank has been set up over 3 years as FO, changed out the crushed coral and wet/dry about 4 months ago with southdown and sump/refugium. About 100 lbs of lace rock and 80 lbs of live rock. Current occupants are yellow bellied damsel, false perc, and royal gramma. Current corals include kenya tree, GSP, five zoo frags, 4 SPS frags from Chris Curtis, and ricordea. The lighting will be upgraded to 10K in a couple of months. Have had the light fixture for three years but never used the MH with FO setup. So the 6500K bulbs have only been used about 4 months.

Hope that covers everything.
Mark.]
 
[No, it was already looking so stressed and losing tissue, that I skipped it and just acclimated and added. I've only got frags in my tank anyway, so thought the risk wouldn't be that great.]
 
[Your gallery is set up. Once you have the image uploaded and you can see it, copy and paste the URL into a post, using the IMAGE button.]
 
[Unfortunately, my raffle table acro is suffering some RTN also. There was some slight tissue loss at the base on Saturday, but it seems to be getting worse.

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This picture is from yesterday, the RTN area is visable towards the rear of the colony. It seems to be spreading, and I'm not sure how to go about fragging this fella. I'm going to be running my old PC lights for several days :( until I can get some electronic ballasts to replace the magnetic ones that I overcooked. Maybe the lower light intensity will actually help.]
 
[Kevin, keep a close eye on that table. If it seems to be continuing, fragging the colony will be your only option to try and save any of the coral. You will have to cut the thing in to pieces that are away from the part losing tissue. You will end up with a bunch of frags and hopefully some of those will encrust and make it.]
 
[Still trying to post pic. If this one doesn't work, I'm afraid I'm going to have to break down and get my 14yr old daughter to help me. If it doesn't, I do have my gallery up and running. Will be adding pics this weekend of the entire tank, but for now it has a pic of the acro.

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[Mark it doesn't look to to bad. I think it looks a little bleached but does not appear to be losing more tissue from what I can tell! Is there actually dead places with skeleton showing or are they just bleached! Hopefully the brown stuff you saw was just the zooxanthellae being expelled leaving the coral bleached. While this is not a good thing it is better then shedding actual tissue!

Gravit, Take that guy and Dremel him. Cut away all the dead stuff and a little of the healthy tissue. It is not RTN or it would already be goner (It takes only hours) but who cares it is dying and that is the point. I think you might save this one with some fragging though since it is not RTN! You might want to cut a frag of the healthy part also and mount it somewhere else in the hopes that if the colony does die the frag might make it!]



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