Having a rough time with fish

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rocketpop

[I'm having a rough time with keep fish alive. Not sure what the problem is.

Here are my params:

Temp - 80
Ph - 8.2
SG - 1.025
Nitrates- 0
Nitrites - 0
Ammonia – 0
Alk – 11 - 12 dKH
Cal – 450 – 500

I am having great success with coral. I have mushrooms, candy canes, frogspawn, hammer and zoos.

I also have 2 emerald crabs, 2 peppermint shrimp, 1 cleaner shrimp, 20 blue leg hermits, and 20 various snails.

I also have a RBTA that is doing great also.

I however can not keep my fish alive. So far I have lost:

2 - false clowns (possible to brooks and also showed signs if ich)
2 - lawn mower blennies
1 - cleaner wrasse (didn’t know not to buy at the time)
1 - yellow tang - please no police here – I know my tank is too small. I brought him in the try to eat some of the HA. I made a deal with the LFS to take him back once I got it under control. He didn't eat much HA, he however ate my reddish/purpleish algae. I tried to feed him nori but he never seemed interested. He eat shimp and cyclo-peeze (sp?)

BTW, he didn’t really help with the HA but I am however winning the battle with HA, but that a whole other topic.

I am now fishless and I plan on stay that way for 6 – 8 weeks to let the possibility of ICH disappear.

Any thoughts to why I am having so many problems with fish??? :sosad:]



Edited By rocketpop on 1100470252
 
[Hi Dennis, Im not sure what size your tank so I cant fire the sirens yet :lol:

Your tank pars look great so at least we can rule that out.

Possible problems: Acclimation procedures, not getting healthy fish in the first place, possible predator (ie, mantis, crabs...), lack of QT.

Bigger problems: Possibly Brooklynella or Cryptocaryon remaining in the tank.

Tell us more about how they died, symptoms and how long they were ill. That could probably go a long way to figuring out the cause of the losses.]
 
[Tank is young, about 6 months old.

2 false clowns - had signs of brooks - where in the tank for about 6 weeks. My very first fish. I added them to the tank after my cycle was done. :sniffle:

1 cleaner wrasse and LMB - died after the 2nd day in tank. I can understand about the wrasse but not the blenny. Possible acclimation error. Clowns were alive when this happen. I acclimated for about 2-3 hours slowly replacing bag water with tank water. :sosad:

1 LMB - possible starvation. Got him the day after the other LBM died. I could not get him to eat anything other then what he was picking off the live rock. He lived for about 3 months. :very sad:

1 yellow tang - possible starvation. I try to get him to eat nori and seaweed selects but it was a no. He was eating redish algea, cyclo-peeze (sp?) and brine shimp/w galic xtreme. :cry:]
 
[Oh I thought my tank size was in my signiture...

Since it's not a factor here, I will keep it to myself. :lol:]



Edited By rocketpop on 1100474676
 
[I float the bag and then I start to slowly replace the bagged water with tank water over 2-3 hours until the SG and Temp are the same.]
 
[Ok Im guessing your acclimation has a good part in this. I try to get fish out of the bag in under 45 minutes. A healthy tank is a far better place for them to be than in a bag and most fish can handle a quick acclimation just fine.
Add one full cup of tank water every 7-8 minutes, dump half of the water when the bag is full and start over. Check s.g. and ph, I find pH will adjust quicker than s.g, so if the salinity is off by a point dont stress about it. If its off by several points continue to acclimate but add water every 5 minutes to speed up the process.
Dont pour the water in as a splash, let it run down the inside of the bag so as not to disturb the fish.

Oh and I completely agree with George. the tank needs to sit fallow for at least 6 weeks. You could have a fish in QT though so it will be ready when the tank is.]



Edited By Amanda on 1100475740
 
[OK - I was under the impression that slower was better.

Thanks Amanda for your advice!

I'm also going to wait the 6-8 weeks just incase there is still Cryptocaryon. What about the Brooks, should I do anything about this.

BTW: The longest living fish was the LMB which was in the tank from the time the clowns died until the tang arrived.]



Edited By rocketpop on 1100476066
 
[The slow acclimation procedure was starving your fish of oxygen. (I'm ignoring the fact that some of your fish choices were tough ones for many hobbyists.)

With Anthias, they need to be in the tank within 25 minutes. FYI from a hobbyist that learned the hard way.

The only things that need to be acclimated super slowly are starfish (Linkia), and that can take as long as 12 hours. Fish and corals can be introduced much more quickly.]
 
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