BRS GFO Setup

Where should I setup this reactor? This is a single deluxe GFO model.

Between the intake section of the sump and return section of the sump?

Between the intake section of the sump and DT?

Between the return section of the sump and DT?

Thank you.
 
My inclination would be to take water from the return section of your sump if possible; this should cause the least amount of mechanical debris to get pumped through the reactor. It doesn't really matter terribly much where you return the water from the reactor, but as a general rule, I return all of my reactors to the intake section of the sump if possible.
 
Chuck...thank you for the reply.

I will set it up as you recommneded. Return section to the reactor input and out of reactor to the input of the sump.
 
I hooked up the reactor and did a PO4 test before I turn on the reactor. I used APC test kit and the reading was 2.0. I used 19 tbsp of granules. After about 24 hours my reading this morning is -0.25, close to 0.0. Should I run the reactor all the time?
 
Most people run it all the time? Unless younswitch to another form of phos export
 
The pump for my reactor is in the return section of my sump. I put the ouput in the drain section o fthe sump. I'm hoping the water will get turned over a few times in there to make sure it's nice and clean when it goes back into the main tank.
 
@fiftyfiveG wrote:
I hooked up the reactor and did a PO4 test before I turn on the reactor. I used APC test kit and the reading was 2.0. I used 19 tbsp of granules. After about 24 hours my reading this morning is -0.25 said:
Just remember if you shut off the reactor, you'll have to clean it out and replace the media before you re-start it -- otherwise the lack of water flow will cause anaerobic bacteria to start consuming any dissolved organics, and you'll have a huge hydrogen sulfide build-up, which (in addition to smelling awful) will kill the tank if you pump it back into the tank water.
 
@ChuckLawson wrote:
Just remember if you shut off the reactor said:
Everytime I shutoff the reactor, I have to clean and replace the GFO granules? How long can I shut down the reactor before bacteria start to build up?
 
@fiftyfiveG wrote:
Everytime I shutoff the reactor said:
This really holds true for any sealed water that you interrupt the flow to -- canister filters, media reactors, etc. -- even sealed pieces of plumbing (a return line with a ball valve for example). There's no real hard and fast rule as to "how long", as it depends on how much organic material is trapped in it and how much dissolved oxygen is in the water, but generally speaking any more than a few hours gets real chancy for something with a lot of surface area like a media reactor. If you open the reactor up and can smell any hint of rotten eggs (hydrogen sulfide), then it's been too long.

For some media, you can possibly rinse the media off very, very well (along with the reactor, tubing, etc.) and get away with it; I don't know how practical that is with GFO, since (if I remember correctly) GFO will adsorb some hydrogen sulfide.

If you need to shut the reactor down for awhile and want to re-use the media, open it up, remove the media, and spread it out in a dish or something (wet or dry) until you're ready to re-use it.
 
I'm thinking about ordering one of these this week. BRS states you can use both carbon and GFO at the same time. How does it work in this unit? Do you mix both together or is there an inner membrane that holds one of the media and you put the second media on the outside of the membrane?

Thanks
 
@ctaylor81 wrote:
I'm thinking about ordering one of these this week. BRS states you can use both carbon and GFO at the same time. How does it work in this unit? Do you mix both together or is there an inner membrane that holds one of the media and you put the second media on the outside of the membrane? Thanks said:
Nope, no inner divider of any kind (unless they've changed them recently or started shipping them with an extra piece of foam); you can mix them in the same cartridge, but that means you'll have to be replacing them both together. With the dual unit, of course, you can do them separately, and you can also arrange the GFO with some "headroom" to allow it to tumble, while keeping the carbon tight between the foam at top and bottom.

The "cartridges" are more or less the same as a refillable DI resin cartridge for an RODI; just a plastic container with a screw-off bottom and a piece of foam to go at either end of the media to hold the media in.
 
Gotcha, thanks for the explanation Chuck. Do you lose any effectiveness by having the two media mixed together? I'm getting crunched for space in my sump area, so if I can get the same effect, then I don't mind using one.
 
@ctaylor81 wrote:
Gotcha said:
Ideally, you want the GFO to tumble a bit, while you want to keep carbon fixed in place since it'll break up tumbling, so you lose a bit of efficiency there, but it's still way more efficient than just tossing the stuff in bags in your sump, so it's not a terribly big deal.

Particularly if you're tight on space, consider ordering a handful of the 90 degree elbows from them when you get it. The half-inch RO style tubing with the reactor is great, but it's really, really stiff, and hard to get positioned just how you want it; with the elbows, you can get a lot more control over the layout (albeit at a loss of a bit of head pressure, but probably not a problem, particularly with just one cartridge).
 
I think the reactors from BRS actually come with a sponge which you can use to seperate the 2.
 
My is a single unit and it came with a foam piece. According to instructions, this foam is to stop any fine particles from enter your DT. You can use it either as carbon reactor or GFO reactor but not both. BRS do sell a dual unit.

I only have the reactor off for may be an hour to clean my sump. It goods to know the side effects.
 
Mine are from back when they first introduced them, so they may ship with an extra piece of foam now. If not, it'd be fairly trivial to find an additional piece of foam and cut it to fit to divide the media. Worst case, you can order a spare cartridge from them and swipe the foam from it (I keep a couple of spares around so I can pre-fill them and then swap them in when I change media. I empty the old ones out and toss them in a bucket of vinegar water to soak for a day or so to eliminate calcium build up).
 
BRS states that the single reactor has the ability to run GFO and carbon at the same time. Look under product description...

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/store/brs-gfo-and-carbon-reactor.html
 
I'm happy to report that my phosphate level is at 0 with APC test kit. I still having algaes but some are showing sign of dying off. Hopefully algae will go away with more water changes.

I also realized what caused algae all of sudden. About three 3 weeks ago, I got a large anemonne about 10 inches when expanded then couple night later, it got tangled with the vortech. It almost gone when I saw it the next morning. At that time I turn off my vortech and let it untangle itself. After this happened I did not do a water change or run carbon. I did do a 10% water change per weekly schedule. This is my first mistake and now I am paying for it. I did a 30 gallons water change last Friday. Do you recommend I do another 30 gallons this Friday?
 
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